On 5/13/2022 at 4:39 PM, Prairie Rose said:

Pastor Jeff got burned big time by Selena. You'd think he'd be more sympathetic to Georgie. Has he even offered to talk with Georgie and/or Mandy?

Pastor Jeff has often come across as quite selfish.  When he has flaws and problems, it's fine; when things happen with other people, not so much.  And in the Hell House episode, it was quite clear that his priority was making money for the church, not actually helping people who thought they were sinners.  I'm not a particular fan of Mary, but at least her focus in that episode was about helping people.

 

Seems like Peg has been part of the church for a very long time, so her "sins" are kinda grandfathered in.  And it's possible that this particular church may not always have been this strict.

On 5/13/2022 at 6:42 PM, Welshman in Ca said:

 

There is also a reason that the saying "there's no hate like christian love" exists and it's not because of Hollywood. That's not to say that some Christians are not good people as there are good & bad people in every walk of life no matter how much some self righteous people deny it.

Heck, I'd say most of the Christians I know are good people and would not behave like those in Mary's church, but there is definitely a certain subset who would.  It's those kind of Christians who give being Christian a bad name.

On 5/13/2022 at 10:44 PM, Kiddvideo said:

Sorry, but Pastor Rob would’ve been trained (as all counselors) to recognize transference and not put himself or Mary in that position. Mary is hardly a virgin and needs to be honest with herself that her feelings aren’t pure (which I think she realizes but right now she has the moral authority that nothing happened), but it’s Pastor Rob’s professional responsibility to put an end to it.

Well even trained professionals are human and sometimes fail to behave as they should.

On 5/13/2022 at 11:07 PM, Sarah 103 said:

What's wrong with someone 23 dating someone 21, unless it's a graduate Teaching Assistant dating an undergraduate student or a supervisor dating a direct report? She made the mistake of believing what he told her. Maybe she thought he looked young for his age or was just a bit immature. 

I don't find anything wrong with a 29 year old dating a 21 year old, but I do get Mandy lying about her age at first.  Given her tv weather person background, I think her being a bit insecure about being nearly 30 completely understandable.

On 5/14/2022 at 8:12 AM, SusanM said:

I can see parents being disappointed with a daughter having a child out of wedlock, regardless of the age and especially when that daughter is working as a waitress when it seems she had a career going for her that has fallen apart. 

We haven't met her parents, so for all we know they could be extremely conservative and thus the out-of-wedlock pregnancy could be a huge deal for them.

On 5/14/2022 at 10:59 AM, SusanM said:

Maybe this is me once again not knowing how things work in a Baptist church but would this be something encouraged, or even tolerated in most cases?

Maybe it depends on the church?

On 5/15/2022 at 7:40 AM, Yeah No said:

I'm not going to continue to go on about this, but Florida has always had a large Jewish population, and I'm sure Ohio also had more of a Jewish presence during that time than East Texas, which would make finding fresh bagels in those places more common.  My question was how readily available they would be in a town in East Texas at the time.  In a big city in that area, maybe it would have been more common, but in a small-ish town or city probably a lot less common until the 2000s.  I'm willing to consider that near a college or in a college town they might have been more available, though.

For all we know, President Hagemeyer has her bagels shipped in from elsewhere.  She seems more cosmopolitan.  And we don't know that they're FRESH bagels.

Edited May 16, 2022 by proserpina65

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